{"id":995510,"date":"2021-10-21T09:00:12","date_gmt":"2021-10-21T09:00:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/clubif.com\/interviste-gaetano-pesce-2021\/"},"modified":"2025-08-19T13:25:10","modified_gmt":"2025-08-19T13:25:10","slug":"portraits-gaetano-pesce-2021","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/clubif.com\/fr\/portraits-gaetano-pesce-2021\/","title":{"rendered":"Gaetano Pesce"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"995510\" class=\"elementor elementor-995510 elementor-988912\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-540b572 elementor-section-full_width elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default qodef-elementor-content-no\" data-id=\"540b572\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-46e87cd\" data-id=\"46e87cd\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-950ba1a elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"950ba1a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-58cd12f elementor-section-full_width elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default qodef-elementor-content-no\" data-id=\"58cd12f\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-66 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-4dec13c\" data-id=\"4dec13c\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b59d141 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b59d141\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div><p><strong>Club Italie-France : Vous avez \u00e9tudi\u00e9 \u00e0 Venise. Votre cr\u00e9ation \u00ab Il Remo piegato \u00bb est-elle un hommage \u00e0 cette ville ? D\u2019o\u00f9 vient l\u2019id\u00e9e, qu\u2019est-ce que cette cr\u00e9ation signifie pour vous ?<\/strong><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong>Gaetano Pesce :<\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>\u00ab Il Remo piegato \u00bb concerne un probl\u00e8me des villes historiques o\u00f9 la vraie vie de chaque jour a c\u00e9d\u00e9 la place \u00e0 l\u2019artificiel du tourisme. La rame, qui poussait autrefois une gondole de transport n\u00e9cessaire, pousse maintenant ce v\u00e9hicule pour le plaisir non essentiel des visiteurs. C\u2019est pourquoi la rame s\u2019est pli\u00e9e et est devenue un pot de fleurs. C\u2019est un exemple de ma conception, qui raconte g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement une histoire qui vient commenter une r\u00e9alit\u00e9 pr\u00e9cise.<\/p><\/div><div><p><strong>Club Italie-France : Vous affirmez souvent qu\u2019il n\u2019y a pas de diff\u00e9rence entre l\u2019art et le design. Pourquoi pensez-vous que ces deux concepts restent s\u00e9par\u00e9s ?<\/strong><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Gaetano Pesce :<\/span><\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\"><b><span lang=\"EN-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/b><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">Depuis plus de cinquante ans avec mon travail, j\u2019essaie de faire accepter aux gens qu\u2019il n\u2019y a pas de diff\u00e9rence entre les expressions artistiques, et aujourd\u2019hui je crois que j\u2019ai atteint l\u2019objectif dans certains pays, en particulier en Europe. Si quelqu\u2019un continue \u00e0 raisonner de la mani\u00e8re traditionnelle, c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire avec l\u2019id\u00e9e de la s\u00e9paration des expressions artistiques, son exemple est un exemple de pens\u00e9e r\u00e9actionnaire et conservatrice, qui n\u2019accepte pas les qualit\u00e9s de l\u2019avenir et se tient proche des valeurs du pass\u00e9.<\/span><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Club Italie-France : Vous avez \u00e9t\u00e9 l\u2019un des premiers \u00e0 fabriquer intentionnellement des objets \u00ab imparfaits \u00bb. Le design \u00e9tait-il un moyen pour vous de r\u00e9sister et de communiquer des messages forts \u00e0 niveau sociologique et politique ?<\/span><\/strong><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Gaetano Pesce :<\/span><\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">Je ne suis pas l\u2019un des premiers, mais le premier \u00e0 avoir pouss\u00e9 le Design \u00e0 une double fonction, pratique et s\u00e9mantique. L\u2019art du pass\u00e9, il convient de le rappeler, a toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 une double expression de fonction: le portrait devait ressembler \u00e0 une \u0153uvre d\u2019art, le paysage devait identifier une ville que certains n\u2019avaient jamais visit\u00e9, le Jugement universel de la Chapelle Sixtine de Michel-Ange a servi \u00e0 rappeler \u00e0 ceux qui ne respectaient pas les lois de l\u2019\u00c9glise qu\u2019il y a l\u2019enfer. <\/span>Ce sont quelques exemples de la praticit\u00e9 de l\u2019\u0153uvre d\u2019art, qui sont flanqu\u00e9es de significations profondes, qui deviennent la culture. Ce qui m\u2019a \u00e9t\u00e9 expliqu\u00e9 m\u2019a donn\u00e9 et me donne l\u2019occasion d&rsquo;exprimer avec un objet de positions politiques, religieuses, philosophiques ou sociologiques.<\/p><\/div><div><p><strong>Club Italie-France : Tout le monde se souvient de votre cr\u00e9ation \u00ab La Mamma \u00bb (1969), ce fauteuil g\u00e9n\u00e9reusement incurv\u00e9 attach\u00e9 \u00e0 un ballon, d\u00e9non\u00e7ant le sort des femmes dans le monde. Con\u00e7u un an apr\u00e8s les \u00e9v\u00e9nements de 1968, il a peut-\u00eatre \u00e9t\u00e9 la base de votre succ\u00e8s. Comment le sort des femmes a-t-il chang\u00e9 depuis ? Peut-on vous appeler un designer f\u00e9ministe ?<\/strong><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong>Gaetano Pesce :<\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/span>Si vous voulez, vous pouvez m\u2019appeler designer f\u00e9ministe, mais je dirais qu\u2019il vaudrait mieux me d\u00e9finir comme une personne civilis\u00e9e qui reconna\u00eet le respect des femmes, pour le travail qu\u2019elles font, et la place qu\u2019elles m\u00e9ritent dans la gestion du monde. Le fauteuil que j\u2019ai fait il y a plus de cinquante ans en parlait exactement de ceci : la femme est prisonni\u00e8re des pr\u00e9jug\u00e9s de l\u2019homme et de ses peurs. <span lang=\"EN-US\">Il est honteux que, dans certains pays, cet \u00eatre extraordinaire soit priv\u00e9 des droits garantis \u00e0 l\u2019individu masculin. Mon fauteuil parlait d\u2019une femme avec la balle dans le pied, la figure du prisonnier: cinquante ans et plus se sont \u00e9coul\u00e9s, mais la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 dramatique des femmes ne s\u2019est malheureusement pas am\u00e9lior\u00e9e.<\/span><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Club Italia-France : Quels souvenirs gardez-vous du design italien des ann\u00e9es 1960 ? <\/span><\/strong><strong>Rappelez-vous que le Salon du meuble de Milan est n\u00e9 en 1961 &#8230;<\/strong><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong>Gaetano Pesce :<\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>Ce dont je me souviens des ann\u00e9es 1960, c\u2019est une \u00e9nergie tr\u00e8s forte en Italie pour le Design, une nouvelle forme d\u2019expression. <span lang=\"EN-US\">Les cr\u00e9ateurs italiens pr\u00e9f\u00e9raient \u00eatre des designers plut\u00f4t que des artistes traditionnels. <\/span>Je me souviens des grands cr\u00e9ateurs comme Nizzoli, Zanuso, les fr\u00e8res Castiglioni, Magistretti, Carlo Scarpa, Albini, Enzo Mari, Mario Bellini et bien d\u2019autres. Le design n\u2019est pas n\u00e9 en Italie mais en Angleterre, o\u00f9 il a maintenu d\u00e8s le d\u00e9but une conception rigide : la forme suit la fonction, la bonne utilisation des mat\u00e9riaux, etc. En Italie, il s\u2019enrichit plus tard de po\u00e9sie et de fantaisie et, gr\u00e2ce au mouvement futuriste italien, il comprend que le monde de la production est au centre de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 culturelle du XXe si\u00e8cle. Ainsi, le design italien devient un protagoniste de la culture, et le seul non-italien qui a pleinement compris le potentiel du design a \u00e9t\u00e9 Duchamp, qui a g\u00e9n\u00e9r\u00e9 une forte controverse et le scandale dans les galeries parisiennes, pr\u00e9sentant des objets industriels. <span lang=\"EN-US\">Aujourd\u2019hui encore, les jeunes designers du monde entier, ne trouvant pas d\u2019industriels dans leurs pays qui comprennent leurs projets, vont en Italie o\u00f9 ils rencontrent des entrepreneurs ouverts \u00e0 l\u2019innovation.<\/span><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong>Club Italia-France : Comment le design a-t-il chang\u00e9 au fil des ann\u00e9es en Italie et dans le monde ? Y a-t-il un designer de la nouvelle g\u00e9n\u00e9ration que vous appr\u00e9ci\u00e9s particuli\u00e8rement ? Quelles devraient \u00eatre les caract\u00e9ristiques d\u2019un designer avant-gardiste?<\/strong><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong>Gaetano Pesce :<\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>Le design a un peu chang\u00e9 en ce moment et il y a un moment de stagnation acad\u00e9mique : on pense plus \u00e0 l\u2019argent qu\u2019au progr\u00e8s de cette discipline. Je ne me souviens pas de noms de nouveaux designers, mais je suis s\u00fbr qu\u2019il y en a. Je dirais que la caract\u00e9ristique d\u2019un projet tourn\u00e9 vers l\u2019avenir et d\u2019un design ainsi con\u00e7u, doit \u00eatre la curiosit\u00e9.<\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Club Italie-France : Vous avez choisi de vivre \u00e0 New York, pourquoi ce choix ? Est-ce une ville qui peut inspirer d\u2019une mani\u00e8re particuli\u00e8re du point de vue du design et de l\u2019architecture?<\/span><\/strong><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Gaetano Pesce :<\/span><\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">Je vis \u00e0 New York depuis 40 ans. J\u2019ai habit\u00e9 \u00e0 Paris pendant 14 ans. J\u2019ai choisi New York parce \u00e7a me semblait \u00eatre la capitale du monde, o\u00f9 les valeurs changent avant d\u2019autres endroits. Je ne l\u2019ai pas choisi pour le design ou l\u2019architecture, qui dans cette ville sont presque inexistants. Je pense qu\u2019il n\u2019y a qu\u2019une seule \u0153uvre d\u2019architecture dans cette ville et c\u2019est le Mus\u00e9e Guggenheim par Frank Lloyd Wright. Les autres sont des b\u00e2timents frigides, sans contenu, la forme urbaine et la d\u00e9coration pr\u00e9valent. Je vis dans cette ville pour son \u00e9nergie, pour l\u2019existence de ses minorit\u00e9s qui maintiennent leurs cultures, parce que malgr\u00e9 tout, c\u2019est encore un lieu de pionniers, qui viennent ici parce qu\u2019ils ont des choses \u00e0 dire et \u00e0 r\u00e9aliser. J\u2019ai beaucoup voyag\u00e9 dans ma vie, mais je n\u2019ai pas trouv\u00e9 un endroit \u00e9quivalent \u00e0 New York et avec la m\u00eame \u00e9nergie.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Club Italie-France : Vous avez export\u00e9 le design italien dans le monde. Comment voyez-vous l\u2019\u00e9cole italienne aujourd\u2019hui? L\u2019Italie reste-t-elle encore reconnue dans le monde en termes de design et d\u2019architecture ou a-t-elle perdu sa position qui l\u2019a vu parmi les leaders du secteur ?<\/span><\/strong><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Gaetano Pesce :<\/span><\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">Je pense que l\u2019Italie, les industriels et les cr\u00e9ateurs italiens n\u2019investissent pas assez dans des projets pour l\u2019avenir, dans des recherches qui affirment de nouvelles valeurs et qui, en fin de compte, conservent le prestige du design italien. <\/span>Cette ressource extraordinaire et importante de l\u2019Italie, ainsi que la mode et la nourriture, me semble ne pas \u00eatre consid\u00e9r\u00e9e dans le respect qu\u2019elle m\u00e9rite. <span lang=\"EN-US\">Les grandes entreprises qui ont fait l\u2019excellent design italien investissent moins dans la recherche et, compte tenu des moments difficiles, se soucient davantage des gains. J\u2019esp\u00e8re que ce moment stagnant passera bient\u00f4t.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Club Italie-France : Vous \u00eates particuli\u00e8rement appr\u00e9ci\u00e9 en France. Quelle est votre relation avec la France ? Aimeriez-vous faire des projets dans ce pays? Y a-t-il des designers fran\u00e7ais que vous aimez particuli\u00e8rement ?<\/span><\/strong><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong>Gaetano Pesce :<\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/span>Comme je l\u2019ai dit, j\u2019ai v\u00e9cu en France pendant 14 ans et je dois dire que le premier pays \u00e0 appr\u00e9cier mon travail \u00e9tait la France. Je me souviens qu\u2019\u00e0 l\u2019\u00e2ge de 28 ans, avec la m\u00e8re de mes enfants, nous avons visit\u00e9 le Mus\u00e9e des Arts D\u00e9coratifs de la rue de Rivoli, au Palais du Louvre. <span lang=\"EN-US\">Ici, nous avons rencontr\u00e9 un jeune curateur, Fran\u00e7ois Barr\u00e9, qui nous a re\u00e7us dans son bureau. Je lui ai racont\u00e9 ce que je faisais. \u00c0 un moment donn\u00e9, Fran\u00e7ois a demand\u00e9 \u00e0 \u00eatre absent, et quand il est revenu apr\u00e8s 10 minutes, il \u00e9tait heureux de me demander si j\u2019\u00e9tais int\u00e9ress\u00e9 \u00e0 faire une exposition dans ce mus\u00e9e dans les trois prochains mois. Je n\u2019ai jamais rencontr\u00e9 un curateur aussi vite et pris des d\u00e9cisions aussi rapides. C\u2019\u00e9tait la France dans les ann\u00e9es 1960. Donc, dans ce pays, il y a d\u2019innombrables projets que j\u2019aimerais faire et je suis ouvert \u00e0 toute proposition, et j\u2019esp\u00e8re que quelque chose va se passer.<\/span><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Club Italie-France : Quels sont vos projets pour l\u2019avenir ?<\/span><\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\"><b><span lang=\"EN-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/b><\/span><\/p><\/div><div><p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">Gaetano Pesce :<\/span><\/strong><span class=\"apple-converted-space\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">Mes plans pour l\u2019avenir sont de donner forme \u00e0 un design m\u00e9connaissable, sur lequel je travaille depuis quelques ann\u00e9es. <\/span>Dans le pass\u00e9, la langue d\u2019un artiste pouvait durer toute sa vie parce que les valeurs de cette r\u00e9alit\u00e9 changeaient lentement. Aujourd\u2019hui, ces m\u00eames valeurs changent de fa\u00e7on vertigineuse, apparaissent et disparaissent, se contredisent et, par cons\u00e9quent, le langage d\u2019un cr\u00e9ateur ne peut pas durer et \u00eatre coh\u00e9rent s\u2019il commente et suit la r\u00e9alit\u00e9. <span lang=\"EN-US\">Il change donc de fa\u00e7on incoh\u00e9rente, devenant m\u00e9connaissable. 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class=\"qodef-m-title\" >\n\t\t\t\t\tInformations\t\t\t<\/h2>\n\t\t\t<p class=\"qodef-m-text-field\" style=\"margin-top: 20px\">\n\t\t\n\t<\/p>\n\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-491bcc1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-halstein_core_icon_list_item\" data-id=\"491bcc1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"halstein_core_icon_list_item.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"qodef-icon-list-item qodef-icon--icon-pack\" >\n\t<h6 class=\"qodef-e-title\" style=\"color: #7C9FC5\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-e-title-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-shortcode qodef-m  qodef-icon-holder  qodef-layout--square\"  >\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-icon-dripicons dripicons-user qodef-icon qodef-e\" style=\"\" ><\/span>\t<\/span>\t\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-e-title-text\">Designer<\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/h6>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-48233de elementor-widget elementor-widget-halstein_core_icon_list_item\" data-id=\"48233de\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"halstein_core_icon_list_item.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"qodef-icon-list-item qodef-icon--icon-pack\" >\n\t<h6 class=\"qodef-e-title\" style=\"color: #7C9FC5\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-e-title-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-shortcode qodef-m  qodef-icon-holder  qodef-layout--square\"  >\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-icon-dripicons dripicons-suitcase qodef-icon qodef-e\" style=\"\" ><\/span>\t<\/span>\t\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-e-title-text\">Gaetano Pesce est l\u2019un des designers les plus importants au monde. Artiste aux multiples facettes, il est \u00e0 la fois architecte, designer, peintre, sculpteur et philosophe. R\u00e9volutionnaire, il n\u2019est conforme \u00e0 aucun mouvement en particulier. Ses projets prim\u00e9s comprennent le prestigieux Prix Chrysler pour l\u2019innovation et le design en 1993, Architektur et Wohnen Designer of the Year en 2006 et le Lawrence J. Israel Prize au Fashion Institute of Technology \u00e0 New York en 2009.<\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/h6>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-098cd85 elementor-widget elementor-widget-halstein_core_icon_list_item\" data-id=\"098cd85\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"halstein_core_icon_list_item.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"qodef-icon-list-item qodef-icon--icon-pack\" >\n\t<h6 class=\"qodef-e-title\" style=\"color: #7C9FC5\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a itemprop=\"url\" href=\"\/fr\/personnalites\/interviews\/\" target=\"_self\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-e-title-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-shortcode qodef-m  qodef-icon-holder  qodef-layout--square\"  >\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-icon-dripicons dripicons-microphone qodef-icon qodef-e\" style=\"\" ><\/span>\t<\/span>\t\t\t\t<span class=\"qodef-e-title-text\">Lire les autres interviews<\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/h6>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-9f7e7da elementor-section-full_width elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default qodef-elementor-content-no\" data-id=\"9f7e7da\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-16 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-4887bbc\" data-id=\"4887bbc\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bc2f536 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"bc2f536\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-304e3fe elementor-widget elementor-widget-halstein_core_image_with_text\" data-id=\"304e3fe\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"halstein_core_image_with_text.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"qodef-shortcode qodef-m  qodef-image-with-text qodef-layout--text-below \">\n\t<div class=\"qodef-m-image\">\n\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"1232\" src=\"https:\/\/clubif.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/1.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full\" alt=\"Club Italie-France: Affaires Internationales - Daisy Boscolo Marchi - Team\" srcset=\"https:\/\/clubif.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/1.jpg 800w, https:\/\/clubif.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/1-195x300.jpg 195w, https:\/\/clubif.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/1-665x1024.jpg 665w, https:\/\/clubif.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/1-768x1183.jpg 768w, https:\/\/clubif.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/1-300x462.jpg 300w, https:\/\/clubif.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/1-600x924.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/>\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"qodef-m-content\">\n\t\t<div class=\"qodef-m-content-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<h5 class=\"qodef-m-title\" >\n\t\t\t\t\tInterview r\u00e9alis\u00e9e par\t\t\t<\/h5>\n\t\t\t\t<h6 class=\"qodef-m-subtitle\" style=\"color: #4079AC\">\n\t\t\tDaisy Boscolo Marchi\t<\/h6>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-25e93bf elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"25e93bf\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-16 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-b9b5a7b\" data-id=\"b9b5a7b\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-662b51a elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"662b51a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-16 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-e4dd62e\" data-id=\"e4dd62e\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-70aa9d4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"70aa9d4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-16 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-13531b6\" data-id=\"13531b6\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ab5a79d elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"ab5a79d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-16 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-b0a5b70\" data-id=\"b0a5b70\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f799ebe elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"f799ebe\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-16 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-3307306\" data-id=\"3307306\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-38f9dc8 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"38f9dc8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-6c68474 elementor-section-full_width elementor-section-stretched elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default qodef-elementor-content-no\" data-id=\"6c68474\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;stretch_section&quot;:&quot;section-stretched&quot;,&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-12deb9d\" data-id=\"12deb9d\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8bd1aaa elementor-widget elementor-widget-halstein_core_section_title\" data-id=\"8bd1aaa\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"halstein_core_section_title.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"qodef-shortcode qodef-m  qodef-section-title qodef-alignment--center  \">\n\t\t\t<h1 class=\"qodef-m-title\" style=\"color: #F4F4F4\">\n\t\t\t\t\tLes derniers interviews\t\t\t<\/h1>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-de98ae7 elementor-widget elementor-widget-qi_addons_for_elementor_blog_list\" data-id=\"de98ae7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"qi_addons_for_elementor_blog_list.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"qodef-shortcode qodef-m qodef-addons-blog-list qodef-info-no-icons qodef-image--hover-zoom qodef-qi-grid qodef-layout--qi-columns qodef-col-num--4 qodef-item-layout--info-on-image qodef-responsive--predefined\" >\n\t<div class=\"qodef-grid-inner\">\n\t\t<article class=\"qodef-e qodef-blog-item qodef-grid-item qodef-item--thumbnail post-1006968 post type-post status-publish format-gallery has-post-thumbnail hentry category-portraits category-2026-portraits category-gouvernement-institutions post_format-post-format-gallery\">\n\t<div class=\"qodef-e-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"qodef-e-media\">\n\t\t<div class=\"qodef-e-media-image\">\n\t\t<a itemprop=\"url\" href=\"https:\/\/clubif.com\/fr\/portraits-jean-michel-blanquer-2026\/\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/clubif.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/CLUBIF-INTERV-IMG-EV-2-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/clubif.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/CLUBIF-INTERV-IMG-EV-2-150x150.jpg 150w, 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